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    I'm going to look into the VE and see what just making adjustments sitting at idle will do. I'm really not sure what to tinker with on the idle spark. HO tables, or LO tables? Or should I be looking at adjusting the idle spark advance by itself? Also adding more or removing spark advance?
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    Will do when I get home, thanks!
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    I can't put these as attachments so I put them up on rapidshare. Let me know what you think I can do for the idle. Well any opinions are welcomed.

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    http://rapidshare.com/files/416341969/8-22-timing.hpl

    Link to Tune File
    http://rapidshare.com/files/41634207...2nd_Timing.hpt
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    Ran the car with a 750 rpm idle and it does the same stuff, but I think the car in general like the 850 idle better.
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    The log files are up, I promise they aren't linked to newds.....or maybe I should promise they are?
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    Well I figured it out with some help from Sheek in Miami. I looked at a file he had and noticed that it had much different injector setting than what I was able to create with Omega's and 04redline's spreadsheet. I'm looking into what the differences being in nearly every setting and checking against what SJSchafer had on HPT to find out why the spreadsheet wasn't getting idle spot on. I might be trying to re-invent the wheel here, but if anyone has anything to add please do.
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    sjshafer created the baddest 60lb map. very select people have the final version of the map.i haven't had time to look at anything right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Area47 View Post
    sjshafer created the baddest 60lb map. very select people have the final version of the map.i haven't had time to look at anything right now.
    Not a problem man, thanks for taking the time though. I understand its kind of a moot point for you now.
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    Mine hunt a little it sounds like a I got cams lol

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    BlackBaltSW tuned me with my 60's and it idle's fine. Didn't take any tinkering with at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBlackSS View Post
    BlackBaltSW tuned me with my 60's and it idle's fine. Didn't take any tinkering with at all.
    post up your injector settings, those alone still need MAF and VE adjustments if switched between cars. lol
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    May need to spend a little more time scaling the maf table

    As someone else said, lowering the idle spark reduces the tendency to hunt at the lower hz 1.6-2.1. I found 10-9* works well for me once the car is warm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBlackSS View Post
    BlackBaltSW tuned me with my 60's and it idle's fine. Didn't take any tinkering with at all.
    It took tinkering, lol. My only advice is make your own injector tables, its basic math and ive always had much better luck with that.

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    I found that just 10* at idle works perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBaltSw View Post
    I found that just 10* at idle works perfectly.
    In the idle spark advance "base" table right? I actually used completely different settings than what I got from Shaun and Omegas table. The spreadsheet worked, but the numbers it gave me is what was causing the idle flux.
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    For some reason the injector tables never worked well for me. But basic multiplication and division skills can make an amazing one lol.

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