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    Well I got my E85 tune on Thursday and uploaded it after work. I had a completely empty tank. My car was running fine and then all of a sudden it just died. I let it sit for like 10 minutes and it started back up no problem. Then, yesterday I took my car to work and it died going into the parking lot. I had my fiance bring me some e85 cuz my car said low fuel on the way to work. It got it to start on my lunch break and drove it around for a while and it was all good. Today I replaced the injector seals cuz one of them had a broken O ring and I was just driving it and it died again! I pulled the spark plugs out and they were white on the tips. I put my crappy auto lites back in and it started up but it died before I could go anywhere. I scanned the codes and it said cooling fan 1 relay circuit or something along those lines so i put the rear defog relay in it's place and it started up again but died within 10 seconds. Is there a problem with my tune or is it something mechanical? Right now I only have one car between me and my fiance and we don't work at the same time so I really need to get my car started! What's wrong!?!? The only thing I can think of is the fuel filter is so clogged it isn't getting enough fuel to start but I can't get a fuel filter till monday
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    Damn man, what are your tables looking like?

    I told you that E85 is bad ♠♠♠♠!

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    I don't have a way to see my tables...
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    Call the tuner...

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    I don't have Vince's number and they're not open on Saturdays. I should just invest in hp tuners now that they released the new beta for 07 and up 2.2 but oh wellz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ndbalt07 View Post
    I don't have Vince's number and they're not open on Saturdays. I should just invest in hp tuners now that they released the new beta for 07 and up 2.2 but oh wellz.
    Email him, he checks on the weekends

    I did the same thing got TFT then got HPT..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rossshady120 View Post
    Damn man, what are your tables looking like?

    I told you that E85 is bad ♠♠♠♠!
    you use 30% more fuel

    OP get a fuel pressure gauge on the rail so you can see what it's doing.

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    I already sent him an email and nothing back yet.
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    How much E85 did you run through her? I would say maybe switch back if you can in the mean time.

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    What are your AFR's doing when it dies?
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    I've seen high 15s at idle so i'm guessing the tune just needs to be updated for more fuel pressure at idle.
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    Vince says it's not the tune so idk what's going on with my car. Could it be a bad coilpack or bad coilpacks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ndbalt07 View Post
    Right now I only have one car between me and my fiance and we don't work at the same time so I really need to get my car started!
    First of all, I don't understand why you would be experimenting with E85 right now, if y'all only have the one car. THAT doesn't make sense to me.

    Either way, my first instinct would be to blame the tune, ESPECIALLY know that I know its a Trifecta tune. You do need to check some other stuff though... like Josh said, check the fuel pressure, etc. If you are on a stock fuel pump/regulator... you should be running 58-60psi of fuel.

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    I told you that E85 is bad ♠♠♠♠!
    You don't know... get outta here with your nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP View Post
    First of all, I don't understand why you would be experimenting with E85 right now, if y'all only have the one car. THAT doesn't make sense to me.

    Either way, my first instinct would be to blame the tune, ESPECIALLY know that I know its a Trifecta tune. You do need to check some other stuff though... like Josh said, check the fuel pressure, etc. If you are on a stock fuel pump/regulator... you should be running 58-60psi of fuel.



    You don't know... get outta here with your nonsense.
    Oh yeah tuff guy?

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    Like I said... get out of here with your nonsense.
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    meanwhile home boys car ain't starting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossshady120 View Post



    meanwhile home boys car ain't starting...
    instead of sheiks getting the white mans money, the white man will get the white mans money due to corn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossshady120 View Post
    WHO THE ♠♠♠♠ CARES ABOUT IT BEING A SCAM FOR MONEY. WE USE IT FOR MORE OCTANE TO MAKE MORE POWER AND RUN THE CYLINDERS COOLER. now I can stop yelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnigear View Post
    instead of sheiks getting the white mans money, the white man will get the white mans money due to corn.
    Our reliance on foreign oil hasn't been nudged either. We just keep on driving more, using more, blindly planning for new highways that would only add to huge problems with gridlock.

    According to the DOE, in the first quarter of 2007 Americans used 500,000 more barrels of oil per day than that period last year, and usage is expected to rise over the next few years despite increased use of flexfuels.
    In addition, E85 costs consumers more than straight gasoline. Though the price at the pump for E85 is about 20-40 cents a gallon less than for straight gasoline ($3.13 a gallon for E85, as opposed to $3.39 for economy regular on May 25 in Jasper), because E85 is about 27 percent less efficient, drivers get far fewer miles per gallon.

    Without the subsidies the price of E85 would be much higher, as much as triple according to some estimates. Oil refiners get a 51-cent tax credit for every gallon of ethanol blended into gasoline, costing U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars annually.
    Essentially, ethanol is a taxpayer funded handout program for not only the auto manufacturers and oil companies, but also for the huge agri-industrial corporations like Archer Daniels Midland, which controls about a third of the ethanol market.

    While corn prices are way up and the USDA says farmers can expect prices to be double what they were last year, it's mainly the large corporations that stand to benefit from ethanol - to the tune of about $700 million next year estimated for ADM alone.

    As Tom Philpott figures in a December 2006 Grist Magazine article, based on last quarter's corporate earnings, every dollar of ADM's corporate profit from ethanol costs the public about $2.85. And none of this includes local and state incentives like property tax abatements, etc.

    For instance, Indiana has given over $7 million in incentives alone to Louis Dreyfus Agricultural Industries LLC, a French company, to build the world's largest ethanol plant in Indiana.
    In fact, David Pimentel's landmark study says it takes 29 percent more fossil energy to make corn ethanol, making it a net energy loser.


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