Toyota FT-86, Subaru BRZ world debut set for November

[G Speed]

http://www.auto123.com/en/news/car-n...r?artid=136828

cliff note is bolded...

Under the hood, however, expect very different outputs for the 2.0-litre, flat-4 engine. A Subaru-spec ECU will put the BRZ at just under 300 horsepower, while the FT-86 will boast 200 horsepower.

What's more, each model will weigh approximately 2,425 pounds. One of the main competitors, the Hyundai Genesis Coupe, is a solid 800-lb heavier in its most basic trim.

Equipped with a limited-slip differential and sport-tuned suspension, both the BRZ and FT-86 should be able to accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in less than 6.0 seconds.

[jb09ss]

300 bhp + 2,425 pounds !?! Do want.

[Empty Pockets]

will def be even more fun to drive once the aftermarket parts scene opens up for this car. And, imo, the car doesnt look too bad either. Interested to see these coming out

[B.rad]

Do like, but final price?

[G Speed]

Look at subaru right now...

WRX -25,495
STI - 33,995

Would have to fit in between both cars or under the wrx or same price as wrx

You choose.. same price...

BRZ = RWD & 25XXlbs & 300hp = 26k
or
WRX = AWD & 3100lbs & 26Xhp =26k

[IdreamofYenko]

Hmm... Subaru dealer might be getting a call. We'll see.

[Billig ss/sc]

Damn that's pretty tempting. These cars are going to be monsters once the aftermarket gets a hold of them.

[G Speed]

holy crap does this ever look awesome... hid headlights + led turn signals? + spoiler is inline with roof = real aero?..... brake ducts?

[Southtown57]

The suby version shall be mine. Been thinking about getting an evo lately. Might just wait till this comes out and test drive one.

[USMCFieldMP]

I wonder what the price difference is between the Toyota and the Subaru... and then how much is required to get the Toyota to the Subaru's power output level. If the Toyota is less expensive by a decent amount... it becomes the obvious choice, imo. Both have the same engine/drivetrain/weight... the Toyota will be capable of the same horsepower then.

[jb09ss]

I wonder if the engine will be made by subaru. IIRC it's a boxer type engine, so I guess that it will be subaru built, which is a weak point for this car imo. But, since it will also be wearing a toyota badge, they probably had their word to say in the whole development of this engine.

[shabodah]

I wonder how they are keeping it that light and meeting minimum crash test requirements. No one else seems to be able to approach that weight with this type or size of car...

[USMCFieldMP]

I wonder how they are keeping it that light and meeting minimum crash test requirements. No one else seems to be able to approach that weight with this type or size of car...

That's what I'm interested in.

[Droxity]

Wish I had 26-30k to blow on a 2-seat RWD car that will probably only see 5 months of road time a year...for those that do, can we hang out?

[B.rad]

I wonder how they are keeping it that light and meeting minimum crash test requirements. No one else seems to be able to approach that weight with this type or size of car...

That's what I'm interested in.

Most likely this is going to mean $$$.

[USMCFieldMP]

That's also what I figured, initially. We shall find out soon enough.

[RLProfessional]

I'm pretty impressed with this...haven't had this feeling since 2004 when the Redlines came out n I got excited. But this is much better even!

And aren't they marketing it as a Scion for Toyota?

[G Speed]

I wonder how they are keeping it that light and meeting minimum crash test requirements. No one else seems to be able to approach that weight with this type or size of car...

why not... look at all the new cars that are coming out with extra features

sunroof
50 speaker sound system
heated steering wheel <--- the kia rio has this now lol
heated seats...

you start taking all these piece away.. it adds up...

look at the 2011 miata or mx-5.... considering it's a convertible which adds more weight.... has 7 speakers + heated seats + leather etc... and comes in at..

2524lbs..... why not?

Wish I had 26-30k to blow on a 2-seat RWD car that will probably only see 5 months of road time a year...for those that do, can we hang out?

yes we can lol

[USMCFieldMP]

You can't compare Miata's weight... or any sporty Mazda... to any other car. Mazda has almost always had lightweight at the top of their list for sports cars.

[G Speed]

wait I'm confused... why can't I compare? They are going to be the same weight? That's a pretty good comparision..

and it wasn't so much about the weight.... more about being lightweight and being street legal in this day in age..